
Got thrown off of Model Mayhem for using the word "explicit" - apparently that word is forbidden and no one told me. I explained to them that "explicit" and "erotic" mean the same thing to me, but their jury is still out. Have the people on that site gone insane?
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KatrinaWhite
I think a lot of people define erotic differently. I certainly don't view it as a synonym to explicit. But that's kind of crazy to get thrown off site with no warning like that!!
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over 6 years

WoogyModel
Katrina - Thank you for understanding that it is crazy to get thrown off a site with no warning like that!
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over 6 years

KatrinaWhite
You're totally welcome! I've heard that it happens to a lot of people who shoot explicit stuff even if they don't post it on MM
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over 6 years

WoogyModel
Wait, getting thrown of a site for NOT posting stuff there? What? And what does "explicit" even mean? I'm still confused
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over 6 years

BoldDaniel
I got a big slap on the wrist a couple of years back for the exact same thing.. they reinstated me after a week or two.
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over 6 years

Elki
just for using the word on a pic comment? strange! hope they reinstate you.
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over 6 years

WoogyModel
Just for using the word in a work offer, but thanks for hoping for me Elki
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over 6 years

WoogyModel
Thanks Daniel, I feel better, I thought these things only happen to me
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over 6 years

AudacieuxPhoto
Well, you could argue that they were already insane... but one of MM's rules is not being allowed to solicit adult work through the site, and you could argue that explicit implies adult work. I think it's stupid, but I can see how it would happen based on the current level of crazyness there.
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over 6 years

WoogyModel
Thanks for the explanation and the validation Audacieux
- I suppose their "erotic" category and thousands of pictures there of pink meat don't constitute "explicit" work - I even told them that Hollywood movies use the term "explicit", why is that word such a loaded term?
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over 6 years

AudacieuxPhoto
Don't know. And you're right. It's quite the contradiction. These days I'm finding MM about useless for trying to find talent.
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over 6 years

KatrinaWhite
Most people think adult work and explicit work are synonymous but that can be a grey area. Technically explicit means "representing sexual activity in a graphic fashion" (that's just one of the many definitions of course). So while I've seen open leg shots on MM that personally I consider fall under the term explicit, technically just showing a body part does not denote sexual activity.
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over 6 years

WoogyModel
I'm glad you said that it's useless
Audacieux, since the model I offered the work to is the one who started all of this trouble. Instead of saying yes or no, she said "that's illegal".
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over 6 years

KatrinaWhite
Well technically offering "explicit" work is against MM rules but that's kinda messed up that she got you thrown off the site instead of just turning down the offer. MM is pretty good for finding non-nude talent or even some art nude talent but unless you're hiring models a lot of the girls there are flakey and it's not good for finding talent for adult work since the site doesn't support it.
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over 6 years

AudacieuxPhoto
I think it's usefulness is probably regional. Around here, there's a huge pool of "talent" but so far I can count on the fingers of one hand the number that I've met that aren't flakes, even for paid gigs.
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over 6 years

Elki
there's always the BLOCK option w/o getting someone thrown off the site. I've used it several times.
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over 6 years

WoogyModel
Exactly Katrina - if she didn't like the work I was offering, she could have just ignored it (via block option like Elki said), but she instead turned into an illegal activity offense. And I don't even think it's usefulness is regional Audacieux, every time I talk to a model or photographer there, insanity follows. It seems like the site is more about wanna bees than actual doers.
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over 6 years

AudacieuxPhoto
LOL. Perhaps so!
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over 6 years

AudacieuxPhoto
Well, we aren't insane, so if you or @KatrinaWhite or @Elki find yourselves in this area, you have a standing invitation to shoot!
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over 6 years

KatrinaWhite
Thank you! :)
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over 6 years

WoogyModel
I want to cum too :)
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over 6 years

AudacieuxPhoto
Right. You were invited too. Just have to get closer than a 1000 or more miles away.
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over 6 years

WoogyModel
Thanks, that's very nice of you :)
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over 6 years

Elki
@AudacieuxPhoto Thanks! Likewise, if ur ever in NYC, let me know.
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over 6 years

BoldDaniel
Well, I did a casting call a few years back looking for Met-Art type models to shoot... It took some time and a few msgs and they reinstated me, so I am sure they will with you as well :)
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over 6 years

WoogyModel
Daniel - Wow, cancelled for looking for Met-Art type of shoots? How is that ANY different from the stuff posted on their site? Now I'm really confused. But thanks for saying that they will reinstate me :)
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over 6 years

CSDewitt Photography
On MM, sure they are... and sometimes, that's an understatement...
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over 6 years

WoogyModel
Thanks CSDewitt fort he validation :)
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over 6 years

BoldDaniel
lol... It is one thing to post an erotic photo on MM it is something different to ask someone to do an erotic photo shoot on MM
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over 6 years

WoogyModel
LOL well stated, Daniel - you've capture the insanity in one sentence!
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over 6 years

BoldDaniel
Yes, well MM is a great tool for the right job but not the right tool for all jobs lol
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over 6 years

WoogyModel
And sometimes a tool for nut jobs lol. Now they are asking me to supply them with samples of explicit work, I directed them to look at their OWN site!
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over 6 years

BoldDaniel
lol... well, hopefully that will work :)
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over 6 years

WoogyModel
Thanks, I hope so too, I feel like they are baiting me to show them explicit pictures so that they can say "no, that's not what we allow on our site". lol
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over 6 years

BoldDaniel
Well, hopefully they like your photos
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over 6 years

WoogyModel
I don't have any such photos, and they are asking me to provide them links to their own site as samples. Sheesh.
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over 6 years

BoldDaniel
lol
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over 6 years

WoogyModel
Well, I couldn't send links to photos on their own site because I'm blocked, so I sent them links to photos outside their site, and four days later, I haven't heard a word from them! Are they really this insane?
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over 6 years

WoogyModel
Now they had me answer questions about what photographers I worked with, and supply names and samples of their work. When I did they they followed up with questions about why my portfolio there wasn't updated in a while, and if I was just there to look at pictures of naked women LOL. I told them that I had worked with models there as well, including @Elki. When will the inquisition end & my account be
reinstated?
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over 6 years

Elki
wow, what an inquisition!
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over 6 years

WoogyModel
Latest correspondence about my account: I don't want to give you any false hope, but I have asked for opinions and input from the mods on your possible reinstatement. Whatever they decide as a team will be what happens.
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over 6 years

WoogyModel
Final nail in the coffin for using the word "explicit" on MM:
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over 6 years

WoogyModel
Hi,
We have discussed this and have decided that MM isn't the right site for you. We will not be reinstating your account and you won't be permitted to create any further accounts here.
Thanks
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over 6 years

WoogyModel
We did complain in writing about the remarks made to my friend, the response from your people was less than caring - why would she need to do a cam for any of that? And there's nothing for you to investigate - I contacted the police, I filled out a report, and the police addressed the matter to my satisfaction. I'm just making the point that the offenses I mentioned are SIGNIFICANT, and the difference between the words "explicit" and "erotic" are NOT.
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over 6 years

WoogyModel
This is after THREE WEEKS of correspondence, where I was required to provide sample photos, photographers names, etc. Is this nonsense, or am I going crazy?
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over 6 years

Elki
that sucks! sorry! :(
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over 6 years

BoldDaniel
Wow! New account with a different email addy?
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over 6 years

WoogyModel
Daniel, I love you!
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over 6 years

BoldDaniel
That probably should have been a PM lol
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over 6 years

WoogyModel
LOL don't be shy
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over 6 years