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WoogyModel

WoogyModel | September 07, 2014 10:45 PM

Got thrown off of Model Mayhem for using the word "explicit" - apparently that word is forbidden and no one told me. I explained to them that "explicit" and "erotic" mean the same thing to me, but their jury is still out. Have the people on that site gone insane?

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I think a lot of people define erotic differently. I certainly don't view it as a synonym to explicit. But that's kind of crazy to get thrown off site with no warning like that!!

almost 7 years

Katrina - Thank you for understanding that it is crazy to get thrown off a site with no warning like that!

almost 7 years

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You're totally welcome! I've heard that it happens to a lot of people who shoot explicit stuff even if they don't post it on MM

almost 7 years

Wait, getting thrown of a site for NOT posting stuff there? What? And what does "explicit" even mean? I'm still confused

almost 7 years

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I got a big slap on the wrist a couple of years back for the exact same thing.. they reinstated me after a week or two.

almost 7 years

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just for using the word on a pic comment? strange! hope they reinstate you.

almost 7 years

Just for using the word in a work offer, but thanks for hoping for me Elki

almost 7 years

Thanks Daniel, I feel better, I thought these things only happen to me

almost 7 years

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Well, you could argue that they were already insane... but one of MM's rules is not being allowed to solicit adult work through the site, and you could argue that explicit implies adult work. I think it's stupid, but I can see how it would happen based on the current level of crazyness there.

almost 7 years

Thanks for the explanation and the validation Audacieux - I suppose their "erotic" category and thousands of pictures there of pink meat don't constitute "explicit" work - I even told them that Hollywood movies use the term "explicit", why is that word such a loaded term?

almost 7 years

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Don't know. And you're right. It's quite the contradiction. These days I'm finding MM about useless for trying to find talent.

almost 7 years

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Most people think adult work and explicit work are synonymous but that can be a grey area. Technically explicit means "representing sexual activity in a graphic fashion" (that's just one of the many definitions of course). So while I've seen open leg shots on MM that personally I consider fall under the term explicit, technically just showing a body part does not denote sexual activity.

almost 7 years

I'm glad you said that it's useless Audacieux, since the model I offered the work to is the one who started all of this trouble. Instead of saying yes or no, she said "that's illegal".

almost 7 years

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Well technically offering "explicit" work is against MM rules but that's kinda messed up that she got you thrown off the site instead of just turning down the offer. MM is pretty good for finding non-nude talent or even some art nude talent but unless you're hiring models a lot of the girls there are flakey and it's not good for finding talent for adult work since the site doesn't support it.

almost 7 years

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I think it's usefulness is probably regional. Around here, there's a huge pool of "talent" but so far I can count on the fingers of one hand the number that I've met that aren't flakes, even for paid gigs.

almost 7 years

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there's always the BLOCK option w/o getting someone thrown off the site. I've used it several times.

almost 7 years

Exactly Katrina - if she didn't like the work I was offering, she could have just ignored it (via block option like Elki said), but she instead turned into an illegal activity offense. And I don't even think it's usefulness is regional Audacieux, every time I talk to a model or photographer there, insanity follows. It seems like the site is more about wanna bees than actual doers.

almost 7 years

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LOL. Perhaps so!

almost 7 years

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Well, we aren't insane, so if you or @KatrinaWhite or @Elki find yourselves in this area, you have a standing invitation to shoot!

almost 7 years

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Thank you! :)

almost 7 years

I want to cum too :)

almost 7 years

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Right. You were invited too. Just have to get closer than a 1000 or more miles away.

almost 7 years

Thanks, that's very nice of you :)

almost 7 years

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@AudacieuxPhoto Thanks! Likewise, if ur ever in NYC, let me know.

almost 7 years

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Well, I did a casting call a few years back looking for Met-Art type models to shoot... It took some time and a few msgs and they reinstated me, so I am sure they will with you as well :)

almost 7 years

Daniel - Wow, cancelled for looking for Met-Art type of shoots? How is that ANY different from the stuff posted on their site? Now I'm really confused. But thanks for saying that they will reinstate me :)

almost 7 years

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CSDewitt Photography

On MM, sure they are... and sometimes, that's an understatement...

almost 7 years

Thanks CSDewitt fort he validation :)

almost 7 years

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lol... It is one thing to post an erotic photo on MM it is something different to ask someone to do an erotic photo shoot on MM

almost 7 years

LOL well stated, Daniel - you've capture the insanity in one sentence!

almost 7 years

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Yes, well MM is a great tool for the right job but not the right tool for all jobs lol

almost 7 years

And sometimes a tool for nut jobs lol. Now they are asking me to supply them with samples of explicit work, I directed them to look at their OWN site!

almost 7 years

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lol... well, hopefully that will work :)

almost 7 years

Thanks, I hope so too, I feel like they are baiting me to show them explicit pictures so that they can say "no, that's not what we allow on our site". lol

almost 7 years

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Well, hopefully they like your photos

almost 7 years

I don't have any such photos, and they are asking me to provide them links to their own site as samples. Sheesh.

almost 7 years

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lol

almost 7 years

Well, I couldn't send links to photos on their own site because I'm blocked, so I sent them links to photos outside their site, and four days later, I haven't heard a word from them! Are they really this insane?

over 6 years

Now they had me answer questions about what photographers I worked with, and supply names and samples of their work. When I did they they followed up with questions about why my portfolio there wasn't updated in a while, and if I was just there to look at pictures of naked women LOL. I told them that I had worked with models there as well, including @Elki. When will the inquisition end & my account be reinstated?

over 6 years

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wow, what an inquisition!

over 6 years

Latest correspondence about my account: I don't want to give you any false hope, but I have asked for opinions and input from the mods on your possible reinstatement. Whatever they decide as a team will be what happens.

over 6 years

Final nail in the coffin for using the word "explicit" on MM:

over 6 years

Hi, We have discussed this and have decided that MM isn't the right site for you. We will not be reinstating your account and you won't be permitted to create any further accounts here. Thanks

over 6 years

We did complain in writing about the remarks made to my friend, the response from your people was less than caring - why would she need to do a cam for any of that? And there's nothing for you to investigate - I contacted the police, I filled out a report, and the police addressed the matter to my satisfaction. I'm just making the point that the offenses I mentioned are SIGNIFICANT, and the difference between the words "explicit" and "erotic" are NOT.

over 6 years

This is after THREE WEEKS of correspondence, where I was required to provide sample photos, photographers names, etc. Is this nonsense, or am I going crazy?

over 6 years

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that sucks! sorry! :(

over 6 years

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Wow! New account with a different email addy?

over 6 years

Daniel, I love you!

over 6 years

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That probably should have been a PM lol

over 6 years

LOL don't be shy

over 6 years

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